Alois Heldmann, who flew with Jasta 10 from November 1916 until the end of the war, confirmed MvR's relationship with NCO's in a conversation with Bruno Schmäling in 1975: "I of course was not as close to Richthofen as others were because I was with Jasta 10. But what always impressed me was his charisma and his ability to lead people. His very presence radiated security and confidence. He treated every pilot the same way, whether he was an officer or an NCO. His instructions and orders were clear and intelligible. He always brought the leaders of the four Staffels together to discuss the missions with them and listened to their opinions. He had a particularly friendly relationship with Voss. His death must have hit him quite hard, but he didn',t show it."
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